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PostSubject: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:55 am

Who's gonna watch it? For once in my life I might actually watch it.


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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:45 am

ill be watching it for as long as it keeps my attention. cant miss something this important. THE REIGN OF TERROR IS NOW OVER!!!!! woot woot
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:07 pm

why do people think that we are Terrorists
there is something you guys dont understand
that your government is using terrorist "name" as a way to conquer the world
and invade us.
and in the end it is egypt they want to invade
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:44 pm

i wasnt calling u guys terrorists i was referring to bushes presidency as nothing but a terror. the guy is a complete dick. ive got no issue wit any race or religion on this earth.
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:58 pm

yea im lebanese so im with sniper FUCK YOU DEAD lol jk Very Happy

and by the way this avatar thing is incredible
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:13 pm

wow moose ur lebanese
cool
and which avatar r u talking about?
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:31 pm

I completely disagree. You couldn't be further from the truth. You call Bush's presidency a reign of terror yet you're going to celebrate the coming of socialism? The guy is setting up a program up for Global Warming for crying out loud, a theory that has already been discredited dozens of times over again. The person he is putting incharge of this program is a woman who use to be head of the National Socialist party. Here's an interesting history fact, back in the 20's Adolf Hilter created the Nazi Party and wanted his whole country to follow his beliefs. He called it the National Socialist movement. Obama's putting a guy in charge of the CIA that has no experience in the field and his only expertise is deregulating programs that otherwise would help prevent attacks from terrorists or other threats. Bush has kept our country from being attacked since 9/11. Oh, and our new head of treasure? He lied about paying his taxes, which is 4 years over due.

The only thing I hear from people now-a-days is "Oh he's black, this is history." But I doubt anyone has paid close enough attention to his intentions towards this country. The people he associates with should be a good enough clue. You can diss all you want and try to put me down with all the bs you want, but that doesn't sway my opinion one bit. Even if McCain was the only other choice, atleast it would be better than putting a democrat incharge. On top of that Obama isn't hardly doing anything he had promised to do. The hope he talked about, the taxes he said he would raise, the war he said would end. Taxes are getting cut, and he told us we just need to take our time and not be in such a rush to pull our soldiers out. Seems like our soon to be president is taking some advice from Bush Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:50 pm

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On top of that Obama isn't hardly doing anything he had promised to do.

of course he isnt he is not president yet technically bush is. its called the lame duck rule. he already has plans he wants to put into place as soon as hes in office.

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The hope he talked about, the taxes he said he would raise, the war he said would end. Taxes are getting cut, and he told us we just need to take our time and not be in such a rush to pull our soldiers out.


first off the taxes he sed he would raise r aimed at people who make more then 250,000$ a year and y should they not be taxed. if they can afford all the stupid shit like a tv in the bathroom or some shit then they can afford the taxes. and as far as the war thing goes the troop pullout cannot be done all at once something like that takes time. think about how many troops we got over then u think that they can be taken out overnight no way. and they r still in a rebuilding phase we have the technology and skills they do not which is why we r training there armies and helping to rebuild there country we cant jus bailout on them like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:39 pm

I know all these already. I'm all for staying and finishing up this war. But why should these so called 'rich' people be taxed? The more a person makes, the more they will be taxed. Think of a business owner who makes up to 200 grand a year. Over 75 percent of his earnings will be deducted in taxes. Eventually, he'll be taxed right out of his business and where does this leave the people working for him? These 'rich' people are nothing more than successful people. They have ambitions and dreams just like us and it took great effort to get where they are. Capitalism runs on success and freedom to so. All socialists want to do is tax the living hell out of anybody making any kind of money and tell them what they think are good for; nothing. High taxing is not the answer nor the solution to our economic crisis.

If you can recall, think back on Kenedy and Ronald Reagan. While in office they cut taxes and during which the economy was booming, even the government made quite a profit. But thankfully our taxes aren't being raised. What we need are more job opportunities and if Obama can do that and help the economy recover, then kudos. But the guy still has too many strikes against him -_-.

Name one socialist country that's been successful.
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:05 pm

What a Face


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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:25 pm

back on topic, ill prob watch =D
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:16 pm

OBAMA is a socialist period. how can you give a income tax break for 95 percent of americans if only 60 percent of americans pay taxes? we call that a welfare check in canada. Shocked and taxing the "rich" does not help anyone, you see the rich people create jobs taxing there wealth means they cant hire or expand there business to its full potential, obama wants to create 5 million "green jobs" he wants americans to depend on the government for employment, its not the role of government to create jobs it should be left to the private sector.
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:49 pm

We didn't even have income taxes back before the 20's. From 1774 to to the 1920's we were able to run this entire country just fine without the need of income tax. And surprisingly well too considering we didn't have a lot of the wellfare programs either, however I'm not completely dissing the whole concept. I just think people are taking advantage of it way too much. You know in Canada, the way the socialist run their health care has got to be one of the worse methods I've seen. Since the government dolls out the money, they have set wages for whatever job you're doing. This limits the enthusiasm of doctors and they pretty much do the minimal amount of work. If you're having pain in your gut and the doctor suspects it's a toumor or maybe even cancer and orders an MRI, it might be months before they ever get to doing that because how the government is set up. That's why a lot of them flock to America, the big daddy capitalist, to seek health care.

They see big business as evil corperations and try to tax them out of existence and run the whole show. I think the best way of describing socialism and how huge of a failure it really is the tragedy of the commons. Share and share alike can only so far until someone wants to step out into the world and make something of themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:00 am

obama isnt socialist lmao hes just gonna try to fix this country after bush fucked it up...bill clinton left bush with a huge money surplus when he left office now this country is over 10 trillion in debt lol im sorry but you cant back up bushes actions and be considered a logical human being...you can say he kept us safe but thats just cuz we havent been attacked...more people hate us now than before 9/11 cuz bush gives everyone the impression that we just invade countries and make them how we see fit its only a matter of time before we're attacked again millions of more people hate us now...we didnt need to go into iraq ya sadam is a fuck but he had nothing to do with 9/11 and didnt have any wmd's which bush and cheney promised everyone in america was true...bush said it himself, "I'm a war president, I makes decisions with war on my mind"...they fabricated everything so that they would be able to go to war so that they could make billions of dollars, just look at cheney's company halliburtion getting no bid contracts in iraq dudes made billions at the expense of american lives...whatever obama is he sure as hell cant be as bad as bush and saying hes socialist is the funniest thing i have ever heard well second to my people have many lag but close
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:27 pm

[GB] .AllEyezOnMe. wrote:
obama isnt socialist lmao hes just gonna try to fix this country after bush fucked it up...bill clinton left bush with a huge money surplus when he left office now this country is over 10 trillion in debt lol im sorry but you cant back up bushes actions and be considered a logical human being...you can say he kept us safe but thats just cuz we havent been attacked...more people hate us now than before 9/11 cuz bush gives everyone the impression that we just invade countries and make them how we see fit its only a matter of time before we're attacked again millions of more people hate us now...we didnt need to go into iraq ya sadam is a fuck but he had nothing to do with 9/11 and didnt have any wmd's which bush and cheney promised everyone in america was true...bush said it himself, "I'm a war president, I makes decisions with war on my mind"...they fabricated everything so that they would be able to go to war so that they could make billions of dollars, just look at cheney's company halliburtion getting no bid contracts in iraq dudes made billions at the expense of american lives...whatever obama is he sure as hell cant be as bad as bush and saying hes socialist is the funniest thing i have ever heard well second to my people have many lag but close


AHAHAHA check this guy out
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:48 pm

Ralph Nadar for President
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:27 pm

I was going to watch it but didnt plan on celebrating the Steelers victory that hard cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:41 pm

It hasnt happened yet IDIOT
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:44 pm

haha ya tomorrow at some point
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:23 pm

well he could still be celebrating the steelers victory Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:13 pm

[GB] .AllEyezOnMe. wrote:
obama isnt socialist lmao hes just gonna try to fix this country after bush fucked it up...bill clinton left bush with a huge money surplus when he left office now this country is over 10 trillion in debt lol im sorry but you cant back up bushes actions and be considered a logical human being...you can say he kept us safe but thats just cuz we havent been attacked...more people hate us now than before 9/11 cuz bush gives everyone the impression that we just invade countries and make them how we see fit its only a matter of time before we're attacked again millions of more people hate us now...we didnt need to go into iraq ya sadam is a fuck but he had nothing to do with 9/11 and didnt have any wmd's which bush and cheney promised everyone in america was true...bush said it himself, "I'm a war president, I makes decisions with war on my mind"...they fabricated everything so that they would be able to go to war so that they could make billions of dollars, just look at cheney's company halliburtion getting no bid contracts in iraq dudes made billions at the expense of american lives...whatever obama is he sure as hell cant be as bad as bush and saying hes socialist is the funniest thing i have ever heard well second to my people have many lag but close

you might as well say the 9/11 attack was a conspiracy against our country by people from the inside. so we go into war so our government could make money but just the fact that thousands of people died because of terrorists from an uncivilized country isn't a good enough motive? we went into that country to not only retaliate but to help them rebuild. they suffered for so long under the ruling of their dictator, Saddam, the only ones complaining are the ones who strap bombs to their bodies and kill innocent people. these people we're fighting against are unruly, uncivilized, unpredictable, and will do anything for their religion even if it means their own life.

Bill Clinton, the guy who was smart enough to call up Saddam and let him know months ahead that we're going to be stopping by and checking for weapons of mass destruction. Yea smooth move, give the guy a chance to move his weapons to the next country over. Clinton had the chance to catch bin laden at one point and was on the radio with a guy who was holding a gun down the cave that had the guy in it. He didn't take the opportunity!!! Pratically let the guy go!! Yea, Obama leans toward socialism, a lot of lefties do. Investigations into the media, trying to tear down businesses with high taxing, controlling the content taught in schoool. Sounds an awful like a socialist. Our economy might have been stimulated some how with Clinton, but Bush had a major attack to his country happen, and what was he going do, stand idly by and not spend a penny because he's afraid the country might go broke? The reason we haven't been attacked isn't because the terrorists haven't been trying, it's because of Bush's programs that have been preventing them. The added security at airports and bus stations, a lot of other crucial points that we probably wouldn't even think about. If you've been watching the news these past few years you'd notice all the reports being made about bombs and weapons being confiscated by people plotting an attack.

The guy Obama wants to put incharge of the CIA has no experience in this, and his best idea of a preventing something is pretty much the same way only a fat bloated loser like Micheal Moore would do, talk it out and sign peace treaties, no more war, and put down our capatilist ways because the big evil corperations are making so much money. All these people he has in his office with him that are connected to socialism in one way or another gives you a clue to what his intentions might be. If the guy can save our economy and win this war without turning tail and leaving before the job gets done, that's all I'm really look forward to during his term.
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:46 pm

well we should have only went to afghanistan cuz supposedly al queda or however you spell it was responsible for the attacks, iraq had nothing to do with it. saddam was a bastard but his actions should have been dealt with appropriately through the UN but instead bush went to war with iraq without their approval, lied to american people, nixon did and was impeached, clinton lied and was impeached, bush lied and nothing happened wtf?
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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:04 am

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bush went to war with iraq without their approval, lied to american people, nixon did and was impeached, clinton lied and was impeached, bush lied and nothing happened wtf?

good point. i agree we should have went to afghanistan the known location of al qaeda and osama bin laden the people claiming responsibility for the attacks. i still cant think of a good reason y we went to iraq they werent involved and they obviously had no wmds. and u talk about clinton having the opportunity to capture bin laden. look at this and bush made many dumbass decisions himself.

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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:16 am

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It hasnt happened yet IDIOT

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PostSubject: Re: Inauguration   Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:27 am

All one has to do is look around and open their eyes. It doesn't take a genius to see that whatever the plan Bush had in his head; it obviously failed. There are families losing their homes left and right, people losing their jobs, and people can still sit there and say "well, he tried." No... he didn't. He had an agenda of his own that did not follow his PEOPLE's .. those who put him in office. He attacked a country without the permission of the UN. Do you even know why the UN is in place? For that sort of shit to NOT happen. If any other country had done what Bush did .... what kind of punishment do you think we'd want for that country?

Its not about how the world views America, we'll always be viewed with a sense of hatred, it's how Bush went about everything he did his entire presidency. He acted as tho he truly did rule the world when the truth of the matter is, he didn't.

Yeah, Saddam was a horrible person and he should have been stopped but there are PROPER channels for that. Bush took the trust of it's people, already wounded after 9/11, lied to their faces that somehow Saddam was in cahoots with Al Queda, when the truth was ... Al Queda is still out there ... where's the justice that was promised to it's American people with this so called war on terror. The terror I see is the one that we brought to Iraq.

Look up why we have the UN, then tell me what Bush did was just and lawful and that any other country could have gotten away with it.


P.S. And those who think Obama is going to create miracles ...wake up. We'll be lucky if we can see signs of improvement by the fourth year of his term. These things don't happen over night. I just feel sorry for any man who's in that position.

Also, someone kept mentioning inexperience. When has that become a bad thing? Some of the best things have come out of inexperience (and some of the worst), but don't judge someone just because they haven't had the chances to make the mistakes so many before them have had ... They might surprise you. Plus, I don't think ANYONE has experienced the degree in which Bush has left this country; so right now .... everyone's inexperienced.

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